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Marko Milivojevic – CCIE #18427
Senior Technical Instructor – IPexpert
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If there’s an option to wave a portion of the test, it shouldn’t based
on who can afford to attend the class or not, I see it as almost
hurting the people who can’t afford to go to one of these classes. If
Cisco is willing to waive a part of the test it should be based on
proven knowledge and skill and not by paying a cost. Guess that’s what
most people mean by buying your numbers…

My 2 cents, I got my numbers by taking the OEQ version last march
2009, so I don’t have any personal interest right now.

You guys are kidding right!!!!

This is the worst thing that has happened to the program in the history of the program.

Last year – I got a little bird set of rumors – one of them was that the Cisco was going to put the squeeze on the non-Cisco instructors…And offer something those instructors could not compete against.

The Cisco 360 “Owned” Groupstudy promptly deleted my posts and about 18 months worth of posts just keep things on the down low…

Now… It looks like a well-planned and quite evil thought out plan to separate the dollars from the pockets of the students and CRUSH the competition all at the same time.

Ouch!!!

WTF!!!

1. Cisco made the OEQ – Supposedly to root out the cheaters….

Except when I reported the CCIE v4.0 was busted, disgusted, and could not be trusted effective as early as December 2nd 2009… to Rick Smith sometime in January with proof-positive… of the incident… I was told by Rick Smith that the Cisco’s Legal Team was working on it.

Meanwhile – things did not improve – people I know who went to the lab confirmed the demo lab was still in progress…

Worse – The dump forums where this stuff lives and breeds… Yep – Reporting taking the lab and even getting the same lab – oh yes and some did pass, not many but some did.

Some are the first-time passers too… Unbelievable…

My point: If Cisco wants to root out cheaters:

1. Change the OEQ more often – The same deck is quite famous and reportedly works as good for CCIE v4.0 as it did for CCIE v3.0… Hope that doesn’t break hearts…

2. If you know the test has been compromised – Change the damn thing!!! Do you really only have 1? 2? or 3? Seriously… How many candidates spend $1400.00 a day times how many seats times how many centers times how many billable days per year…

Stop being cheap and buy a vowel.

2. Cisco expanded the OEQ to other tracks… Hint CCIE Voice and CCIE Security – Yep totally compromised and this was reported too…

Seriously guys – Step up the game or just get out of the certification business. Really I mean it – Don’t step up if you can’t keep up!!!

WTF!

3. The Cisco 360 Drones Complained…

The Whiner himself said he recommended the program… Hah! It shows… Hey! Vegas, Booth Babes, and now this… Truly Classic!!!

Look – Don’t take my word for it. CCIE Trainers have been proud since the beginning of Testimonials and CCIE Lists of people who passed using their product…

Now do a scavenger hunt and check out the Cisco 360 Companies…

YES!!! Kill Stroke! How many actually have and CCIE RS CCIE’s in the list… Ummm…. double check… now are there any since October 18, 2009? Really? Ok Narbik got one on Friday – but the guy thanked Ruhann for the OEQ… Checkmate!

WAIT!!! Not just since CCIE v4.0… but take it back to the inception of the Cisco 360… Netmasterclass is a great place to start… FYI – one or two of the last couple of passers had multiple (as many as at the very least one had no less than 5 attempts… and being TAC helped too).

4. What on earth makes people who don’t have hardly any newly minted CCIE’s… qualified OVER and ABOVE those who do have newly minted CCIE’s (InternetworkExpert and IPexpert for example)…

WTF!

Wait… You really need to go back and read that and yell it out loud: WTF!!!

How in the hell are their programs qualified to make people exempt… They are not passing any now… AT ALL….

5. Did anyone think this piece of manure out? Really? I mean it… Really….

6. Now like it or not this gives a competitive advantage to the Cisco 360… kinda like the FREE REPEAT did…

Till everything Cisco 360 including Mock Labs were exposed to the public… Yes people… they are on share sites everywhere – some fools even tweet them – I kid you not….

Yep – I gave the heads up to the Program Manager types that call me and/or e-mail…

Could not save the Titanic if I tried….

FINAL THOUGHTS!!!!

1. Keep the OEQ for everyone…

2. Remove the OEQ for everyone….

One Cisco Instructor has openly and publicly said he does not like or agree with the OEQ WAIVER Program. That instructor was Narbik Kocharians on Groupstudy.

He may actually get more students for his courage – go figure…

Now he was publicly challenged (literally a “double dog dare”) by a guy named Redrose to put his money where his mouth was and put up or shut up kind of thing… and NOT offer the WAIVER to his students…

Knowing Narbik – He’ll probably do just that too.

If and when he does… then even the Cisco 360 Program Instructors are would not be “BUYING THIS BS”!!!

Let me get this reposted in a few places – just in case ya’ll try and delete it… which of course will give it more substance…

For the record:

I just got my training approved to attend a Cisco 360 Training Class – and I am mad about this double standard and won’t take a class with the Cisco 360 as I’d prefer to earn my CCIE and not be exempted from anything anyone else has to face in the lab… ie. I’m not going to Pay the Cisco 360 for Points!!!

Every CCIE – Past, Present, and Future needs to tell Cisco what they can do with the CCIE Waiver Program!!!

It’s probably an April Fool’s Joke anyway!!!

sales have been down from the start because of poor support, less blogs materials like ipexpert and INE.

They have some old videos of NMC as their 360 class on demand workbooks.

The old DO-IT workbook of NMC is used in the 360 workbook.there is nothing new in the workbook and similarly there is no material from Cisco 360 program for the OEQ.

Due to the poor sales of their product and seeing the low passing rate of CCIE R&S mainly because of the OEQ. and ofcourse upwards sales of IPExpert and INE through their world class products.

Only way to hit these providers is by luring the students by giving them a greater hope of passing the lab without worrying about OEQ by spending huge $$$ on the same.

It’s a not a waiver but a bribe demanded by cisco from the students.

In the first place the OEQ sucks it doesn’t challenge the students knowledge in anyway. It’s just a way to get more $$$ by multiple attempts.

The only way for all CCIE pursuing students to fight against this is dropping their dates and not supporting this corrupted program by Cisco.

when Cisco sees that within 2 to 3 months time there are hardly any lab exam dates booked this thing will be automatically called off probably even the entire OEQ.

These are just my views !!!!

Let there be pure troubleshooting and configuration in the lab and real way of testing knowledge.

Though a CCIE myself but hate the way Cisco works.

Wacko

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Marko Milivojevic – CCIE #18427
Senior Technical Instructor – IPexpert
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