But overall Chris – I agree with you – very strange indeed!

But overall Chris – I agree with you – very strange indeed!

-Chris

-Chris

Our list of successes is ordered by CCIE #- looking down the list of CCIE successes can be somewhat misleading as quite a few new CCIE-V’s already have passed R&S and consequently they don’t appear at the top of our list of successes due to their lower CCIE number. I would like this changed at some point.

I wish we have 10 new people per class since my bonus would be a lot better:-) We have some extremely busy phases and some very quiet times- I’m not sure of all the factors that determine the trend.

Regarding students who attend bootcamps- its fairly easy for Mark and I to see who is prepared and who is not. There are quite a few people who use the bootcamp at the start of their preparation and use it to build a roadmap of what lies ahead. Some of these guys go on and pass 6 months to a year later (maybe we see them again on a free re-sit of the bootcamp). There are others who get distracted by work and family commitments and we never see or hear from them again. We had a recent class of 12 people where 6 or 7 passed within the next couple of months. That was a good conversion rate. However there are some classes of 12 whereby it is a little more difficult to see more than a couple of people passing. But that is the nature of the exam- if everybody could pass the exam following a bootcamp then the certification would not have the prestige it presently carries.

Anyhow- best of luck to all reading this- it is no doubt a hard exam to pass. Cisco encourages study groups, use forums/email lists, use blogs, use workbooks, use bootcamps (subject to $$ being available). Don’t study in isolation.

Our list of successes is ordered by CCIE #- looking down the list of CCIE successes can be somewhat misleading as quite a few new CCIE-V’s already have passed R&S and consequently they don’t appear at the top of our list of successes due to their lower CCIE number. I would like this changed at some point.

I wish we have 10 new people per class since my bonus would be a lot better:-) We have some extremely busy phases and some very quiet times- I’m not sure of all the factors that determine the trend.

Regarding students who attend bootcamps- its fairly easy for Mark and I to see who is prepared and who is not. There are quite a few people who use the bootcamp at the start of their preparation and use it to build a roadmap of what lies ahead. Some of these guys go on and pass 6 months to a year later (maybe we see them again on a free re-sit of the bootcamp). There are others who get distracted by work and family commitments and we never see or hear from them again. We had a recent class of 12 people where 6 or 7 passed within the next couple of months. That was a good conversion rate. However there are some classes of 12 whereby it is a little more difficult to see more than a couple of people passing. But that is the nature of the exam- if everybody could pass the exam following a bootcamp then the certification would not have the prestige it presently carries.

Anyhow- best of luck to all reading this- it is no doubt a hard exam to pass. Cisco encourages study groups, use forums/email lists, use blogs, use workbooks, use bootcamps (subject to $$ being available). Don’t study in isolation.

Very positive approach you are adopting. If you pass you will be one of less than 1% who make it first time.

Average number of attempts (according to a proctor) is >5 for voice, this seems high but that is what I was told a couple of months ago.

I have come across some excellent folks on the bootcamp and they have take 3 or 4 attempts.

Of the 18 to 20 people whom I have come across on the bootcamps so far only a handful have passed and this is over the course of 12 months. If you look down the list of testimonials you will see who is passing voice. Now look at how many courses are run. About 10 new people per class.

IPExpert seems to generally be regarded as the best at voice and you can see the conversion rate is fairly small. It is very rare to just breeze through this thing. There are lots of bright people out there, if you could breeze it there would be a lot more than 857 voice CCIEs over the course of the 5 years it has been running.

I am all for positive thinking, just trying give folks a realistic view from the inside.

Also don’t forget all the new kit, this is so much the place to be concentrating. Be right at the front of what can be done with the latest offerings. Better for you better for your company. Good luck what ever route you go.

Very positive approach you are adopting. If you pass you will be one of less than 1% who make it first time.

Average number of attempts (according to a proctor) is >5 for voice, this seems high but that is what I was told a couple of months ago.

I have come across some excellent folks on the bootcamp and they have take 3 or 4 attempts.

Of the 18 to 20 people whom I have come across on the bootcamps so far only a handful have passed and this is over the course of 12 months. If you look down the list of testimonials you will see who is passing voice. Now look at how many courses are run. About 10 new people per class.

IPExpert seems to generally be regarded as the best at voice and you can see the conversion rate is fairly small. It is very rare to just breeze through this thing. There are lots of bright people out there, if you could breeze it there would be a lot more than 857 voice CCIEs over the course of the 5 years it has been running.

I am all for positive thinking, just trying give folks a realistic view from the inside.

Also don’t forget all the new kit, this is so much the place to be concentrating. Be right at the front of what can be done with the latest offerings. Better for you better for your company. Good luck what ever route you go.